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This week I thought it might be helpful to offer a few frequently asked questions about condos in Mexico and provide my responses.

Question #1

I am currently the treasurer of a condo board in Puerto Vallarta. We have some owners who are uncomfortable opening a bank account in Mexico to pay condo dues. Do they need to open an account?

Answer

The expense budget for condos is in pesos because this currency is used to pay for common utilities, maintenance, labor, federal maritime concession, insurance, etc.

A foreigner does not need to have a Mexican bank account to pay HOA fees. He/she has an option to send HOA fees in wire transfers from the U.S., Canada or other countries to the HOA bank account. (We are talking about actual HOA condo dues for the year 2017 and nothing else at this point).

You will all want to know how to wire correctly to the HOA bank account. Some Mexican banks have different accounts for receipt of different currencies. Your administrator and board should know the answers to this question.

Some enterprising owners buy pesos from their own banks or a national exchange and then wire pesos direct. Most owners do not go this extra step and wire their foreign currency to be converted to pesos when it is deposited into the account of the receiving bank (your HOA bank account).

An owner sending U.S. or Canada dollars will need to ask their bank what amount of their foreign currency should be sent to equal the amount of pesos they need to send for their dues. They need to know if the sending or receiving bank has a separate charge, and allow for this extra amount.

Each wire will be different in regard to where it is sent from and what the rate is that day. The point is that the HOA or Board should not get involved in setting rates, as these would not be accurate from day-to-day and it is not their business to do this.

There should be a strong benefit from the strength of the U.S. or Canada dollar conversion into pesos, for the sender.

Question #2

What about bank trusts and proxies?

Answer

I am receiving a number of questions on this issue. Let me share with you what I understand to be the case.

Banks that have fideicomiso departments are trustees of the real estate in the restricted zone. An ancient and very common precept in Napoleonic or Roman law allows an owner to give the ownership rights to another party. This includes our Mexican fideicomisos: the right to purchase these rights, the right to occupy, to sell the rights to another party and the right to leave the rights to heirs. The newer trusts permit the use of the rights for 50 years, renewable.

The bank cannot act on behalf of the beneficiary without his/her permission. Some trusts do not automatically give permission for the beneficiary to act on his/her behalf at a condominium meeting regarding the property. In this case, the beneficiary needs to execute a proper letter for representation at the meeting.

When the beneficiary needs to appoint a proxy, the bank issues a carta de poder letter according to their specfications. They will also state what IDs are required. The proxy holder can attend and vote for the beneficiary at the meeting.

Some owners or primary beneficiaries review the agenda in advance and tell their proxy how they wish to vote. Some ask the proxy to attend the meeting and use their best judgement on decisions and votes taken to pass motions.

The bank forms will be in Spanish. The foreigner can have it read to him or translated into English to be sure he/she understands the content. Please remind your owners Spanish is the legal language. English is a courtesy and good translators charge for formal translations.

Also, I believe that local administrators preparing for the first quarter meeting of their HOA are making sure the HOA condo association they represent is a proper civil association under the 1995 Jalisco Condominium law.

This article is based upon legal opinions, current practices and my personal experiences in the Puerto Vallarta-Bahia de Banderas areas. I recommend that each potential buyer or seller of Mexican real estate conduct his/her own due diligence and review.

4 COMMENTS

  1. Excellent. Great advice as we are new owners in Mexico. This was forwarded to by a friend. May I please receive this Newsletter when published?
    Ruth Hartmann

  2. I have a question. What are the Jalisco laws on non payment of HOA fees? Our association states a penalty will be assessed, but isn’t specific. Or strong enough, too many owners are not paying their fees.

  3. You will need to get a copy of the Jalisco law for payment of HOA fees and sanctions from your administrator. You may have to have it translated

  4. I am on the HOA commitee for a 90 unit complex close to
    Tulum Mexico. I have been looking for the legal defintion of the treasure duties for the commitee. We have hired a administration company and aprroved the budget for them to work with in for a year. Could you help me with this I would very much apperciate any informatatin you can provide including where I might be able to search this this.
    Thank you Pete

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